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	<title>Comments for Jocene - cck08</title>
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	<description>Another excellent Edublogs.org weblog</description>
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		<title>Comment on A pedagogical myth by Keith Lyons</title>
		<link>http://jocene.edublogs.org/2009/03/02/a-pedagogical-myth/comment-page-1/#comment-31</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Lyons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 20:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jocene

I have not managed to participate in SL and so am fascinated by your success. Like you I am excited by the enabling possibilities of cloud computing. I see this participation as invitational too. I read your post after watching Jay Cross&#039;s &#039;No more learners&#039; video.

I conducted a small survey recently of colleagues in a Yammer group. It was helpful and led to a discussion of how to support and develop PLEs. 

Best wishes

Keith</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jocene</p>
<p>I have not managed to participate in SL and so am fascinated by your success. Like you I am excited by the enabling possibilities of cloud computing. I see this participation as invitational too. I read your post after watching Jay Cross&#8217;s &#8216;No more learners&#8217; video.</p>
<p>I conducted a small survey recently of colleagues in a Yammer group. It was helpful and led to a discussion of how to support and develop PLEs. </p>
<p>Best wishes</p>
<p>Keith</p>
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		<title>Comment on Implementing PLEs like we are supposed to. by Mark van Harmelen</title>
		<link>http://jocene.edublogs.org/2009/01/29/implementing-ples-like-we-are-supposed-to/comment-page-1/#comment-30</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark van Harmelen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 21:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that there are two answers:

It&#039;s entirely possible to give students a PLE for themselves with a &#039;here&#039;s something to start with&#039;, and particulary with some training on how to choose/configure thier own PLE facilities. Think of it as scaffolding, getting the students going. 

But on the other hand, there is an theme of getting students to direct their own education as peer-assisted learners that runs through the PLE movement. So its (regretably) gratifying to read that the approach seems intractable in formal educational settings. 

But ultimately, I feel the former  approach is the way to go, a step towards helping students along the path to self-determnation in their own education.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that there are two answers:</p>
<p>It&#8217;s entirely possible to give students a PLE for themselves with a &#8216;here&#8217;s something to start with&#8217;, and particulary with some training on how to choose/configure thier own PLE facilities. Think of it as scaffolding, getting the students going. </p>
<p>But on the other hand, there is an theme of getting students to direct their own education as peer-assisted learners that runs through the PLE movement. So its (regretably) gratifying to read that the approach seems intractable in formal educational settings. </p>
<p>But ultimately, I feel the former  approach is the way to go, a step towards helping students along the path to self-determnation in their own education.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Implementing PLEs like we are supposed to. by How do you implement PLEs into higher education courses? &#171; The Weblog of (a) David Jones</title>
		<link>http://jocene.edublogs.org/2009/01/29/implementing-ples-like-we-are-supposed-to/comment-page-1/#comment-29</link>
		<dc:creator>How do you implement PLEs into higher education courses? &#171; The Weblog of (a) David Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 00:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] do you implement PLEs into higher education&#160;courses?  Jocene reflects a bit upon a slidecast (titled &#8220;Personal Learning Environments: The future of education?&#8221;) by [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] do you implement PLEs into higher education&nbsp;courses?  Jocene reflects a bit upon a slidecast (titled &#8220;Personal Learning Environments: The future of education?&#8221;) by [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on sad little blog by jocene</title>
		<link>http://jocene.edublogs.org/2009/01/07/sad-little-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-28</link>
		<dc:creator>jocene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 00:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>- and there has been a bit of that around lately too.
Cheers, Damien.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>- and there has been a bit of that around lately too.<br />
Cheers, Damien.</p>
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		<title>Comment on sad little blog by Damien</title>
		<link>http://jocene.edublogs.org/2009/01/07/sad-little-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-27</link>
		<dc:creator>Damien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 05:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jocene, I just love the way you write.  It makes me laugh and yet the message comes through so loud and clear.  Don&#039;t make apologies. :)

Although be careful wading through technical stuff, not everything that floats is a buoy. ;)

Damo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jocene, I just love the way you write.  It makes me laugh and yet the message comes through so loud and clear.  Don&#8217;t make apologies. <img src='http://jocene.edublogs.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Although be careful wading through technical stuff, not everything that floats is a buoy. <img src='http://jocene.edublogs.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Damo.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Christmas past by jocene</title>
		<link>http://jocene.edublogs.org/2009/01/01/67/comment-page-1/#comment-26</link>
		<dc:creator>jocene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 11:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On seeing my blog for the first time, my sister has pointed out the spelling error in this post. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On seeing my blog for the first time, my sister has pointed out the spelling error in this post. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>Comment on (Secret and password protected) Diary of a Web 2 Novice by ECRM conference abstract &#124; Jocene - cck08</title>
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		<dc:creator>ECRM conference abstract &#124; Jocene - cck08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 06:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (Secret and password protected) Diary of a Web 2.0 Novice – A Subtextual Phenomenon. [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Life in a jar by Ed Webb</title>
		<link>http://jocene.edublogs.org/2008/12/21/life-in-a-jar/comment-page-1/#comment-24</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Webb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 02:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[Apologies for that last post - browser glitch.  What I meant to say was:]

Beautiful image.

It&#039;s striking that you are thinking about Whitehead in the context of/around cck08.  I found my way back to him recently by participating in a distributed reading group on McLuhan&#039;s Medium is the Massage.  McLuhan quotes Whitehead liberally throughout, and to striking effect.  So I have gone back to the source.  He seems to speak well to the times, or at least to those of us in these times questioning what and how knowledge and education are and could be.  And so the following: http://the-ed-rush.blogspot.com/2008/12/expectation-of-information-conversation.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[Apologies for that last post - browser glitch.  What I meant to say was:]</p>
<p>Beautiful image.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s striking that you are thinking about Whitehead in the context of/around cck08.  I found my way back to him recently by participating in a distributed reading group on McLuhan&#8217;s Medium is the Massage.  McLuhan quotes Whitehead liberally throughout, and to striking effect.  So I have gone back to the source.  He seems to speak well to the times, or at least to those of us in these times questioning what and how knowledge and education are and could be.  And so the following: <a href="http://the-ed-rush.blogspot.com/2008/12/expectation-of-information-conversation.html" rel="nofollow">http://the-ed-rush.blogspot.com/2008/12/expectation-of-information-conversation.html</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Life in a jar by Ed Webb</title>
		<link>http://jocene.edublogs.org/2008/12/21/life-in-a-jar/comment-page-1/#comment-23</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Webb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 02:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://the-ed-rush.blogspot.com/2008/12/expectation-of-information-conversation.html</description>
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		<title>Comment on Out of/for control? by Curriulum Designers - The Eduspeak translators &#171; Damo&#8217;s World</title>
		<link>http://jocene.edublogs.org/2008/10/21/out-offor-control/comment-page-1/#comment-22</link>
		<dc:creator>Curriulum Designers - The Eduspeak translators &#171; Damo&#8217;s World</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 06:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] my initial post, I made reference to another colleagues frustration with discipline specific dialogue from the IT field.  I am reminded of a comment by VR Bones in [...]</description>
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